How to Teach DPS who the Tank *IS*

Garona is down, and I am amusing myself with forum posts. This caught my eye:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21042555646&sid=1&pageNo=1

Basically, this is an argument about a tank not being able to hold a DPSer's aggro in a heroic, and the various people inside are trying to put forth their arguments about who is in the wrong and so on and so forth. Read the whole thread before reading on if you haven't already done so.

Now, assuming you already read it all, you will have seen that there are 2 differing opinions on the topic:

(A) It's the tank's fault for not being able to hold aggro

(B) It's the DPSer's fault for not lightening back

As you all might or might not already know, I strongly reside in camp (A).

DISCLAIMER: WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY HOLDS TRUE FOR WARRIORS. IT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HOLD TRUE FOR DKs, PALLIES, AND DRUIDS.

As I was saying, I pride myself on being an aggro monster when tanking on any warrior. I might not mark mobs any more, but this does not mean I intentionally let people die if their aggro, and hence DPS, is that high.

Sure, you might still be marking your mobs, and that idiot DPS refuses to follow the focus-fire order. Give him a couple of warnings, then boot him if you wish. BUT IS IT REALLY TOTALLY HIS FAULT?

It is YOUR job as a tank to keep the attention of hostile monsters. Just because one party member isn't following instructions doesn't mean you should stoop to his level and let the situation deteriorate. Once you see that happening, immediately stack threat on the mob that the rogue DPS is beating on. It IS part and parcel of a tank's job (see Adaptability here). If you are simply so stubborn and refuse to adapt to the situation, you might as well quit tanking.

Of course, this does not mean that you have to always share the blame. Sometimes your gear is really so bad that the rogue DPS will over-aggro you. In that case, you have my support in booting him if you already warned him and tried to take corrective actions. BUT, and I MUST stress this, it is totally and completely possible to hold the aggro of a DPSer who is more than one tier of gear above yours, if you have a decent block value (~1200-1300) and decent attack power (~3k).

I have held the 13k DPS of an arcane mage decked out in T9.25 with only 20% threat reduction + vigilance on the Twin Valkyr's in ToC10, wearing only average ilvl 226 gear. I have held the 5k DPS of a marksman hunter in heroics way before the block value buff, with only ~900 block value and with mostly ilvl 200 epics. Heck, I've held Z's mage's aggro doing 6k TPS without a single point of threat reduction in heroics without marking a single mob while holding the aggro of other DPSers. I have managed to overtake the main tank's threat in raids while offtanking and receiving only minimal environmental damage (and those were fairly good tanks too).

Gentlemen (and ladies), do not tell me it cannot be done because it can be done and I have done it. Yes, I did not say it was easy. But, if I can do it, so can you. You, as a tank, are supposed to be doing everything you can so that your raid DPS can unload. If you have not done everything in your power to make it so, you have failed as a tank, and obviously still have a lot of room for improvement.

Edit: To the level 24 mage, Wobble, and his "arguments" and the people who agree with him and the people whom he supports, you can take your arguments and stuff it.

Edit on the edit: To quote Zangetzu, one of the posters in that thread:

"I try to save dps who pull from me when tanking, no matter what kind of stupid reasons exist for it. I don't have any kind of stupid - you pull it you taunt it policy. I'm here to tank, and i'll protect the group any way I can."

That's exactly who I am. I'll still try to kill you if you're silly though :P, like B.

Edit on the edit on the edit: Open for discussion.